What are the odds Qwen 4 models are going to think less?
Qwen4s are hopefully coming pre-Xmas... there was all the announcements recently but no exact release date.
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Key points
- I’m running qwen flash next 3.8 at about 28tokens per second and gotta be real, most of those go into thinking.
- Thinking less with the same or higher intelligence would be the biggest upgrade I could think of regardless of hardware or inference smarts.
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- [1]What are the odds Qwen 4 models are going to think less?r/LocalLLaMA (top, daily) · Oct 18, 05:09 AM
Qwen4s are hopefully coming pre-Xmas... there was all the announcements recently but no exact release date.
I’m running qwen flash next 3.8 at about 28tokens per second and gotta be real, most of those go into thinking.
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Hype check
Independently evaluated5 independent looks since
- Evaluation · Oct 18, 2026T2I Comparison (~4MP): Qwen Image 2.1 Turbo vs. MOSS-Image-SFT vs. Krea 2 Turbo vs. Flux 3 Klein (🤮)
- Evaluation · Oct 18, 2026Agens Volundr 32B v1: we fixed what you flagged in the Preview. 0/50 loops, session continuation, and an MIT engine that runs it with 262K context (measured to 239K) within a 16 GB budget
- Evaluation · Oct 18, 2026Same prompt, 3 models: SDXL (WAI-Illustrious v17) vs Krea 2 turbo vs MOSS-Image-SFT (anime scenes, no LoRA)
- Evaluation · Oct 18, 2026FLOW - SIGN | Naruto Band AI Music Video - Itachi vs Sasuke x Pain Arc
- Evaluation · Oct 18, 2026ICLR 2027: Reciprocal reviewer with 0 paper assignments—should I be concerned? [D]
- Follow-up · Oct 18, 2026Built a search engine for debugging which is not a wrapper [P]
Before this
- Oct 17, 2026Alignment on SOTA Chinese Models like Qwen 3.8 Flash Next / GLM 5.3 Flash
- Oct 17, 2026Qwen Flash Next quant and temp comparison - performance vs task time vs quality
- Oct 17, 2026deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017
- Oct 17, 2026Nemotron 3.5 Bolt, Muse Spark Open, and a Fast LFM2.5 24B
- Oct 16, 2026Qwen Flash Next potential SOTA Q2 nobody talks about
- Oct 15, 2026Did someone use/try the Qwen flash 3.8 next "coder" model on some work?
