ModelsBenchmark resultSafety & Alignment1 source · Oct 17, 2026

Alignment on SOTA Chinese Models like Qwen 3.8 Flash Next / GLM 5.3 Flash

What is your experience on alignment with models like Qwen 3.8 27B or Qwen 125B Next Flash?

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Key points

  • I've seen Anthropic and OpenAI models talk down serious mistakes that I called out, or doing things I hadn't really intended.
  • The HF incident showed what these LLMs are capable of if not fully aligned.
  • Qwen NF seems quite obedient so far, sometimes even a bit too much (I have to be careful to call out a hunch or rough idea as such or it will follow it too hard).
  • Have you ever felt betrayed, mislead, or gaslight by the latest Chinese open param models like Qwen Flash Next or GLM 5.3 Flash?

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Hype check

Independently evaluated4 independent looks since

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  2. Evaluation · Oct 17, 2026What is wrong with AI writing - ICLR edition [D]
  3. Evaluation · Oct 18, 2026Follow-up: Tested my 9 thinking rules on long-horizon agent tasks (Terminal-Bench 2.0)
  4. Evaluation · Oct 18, 2026T2I Comparison (~4MP): Qwen Image 2.1 Turbo vs. MOSS-Image-SFT vs. Krea 2 Turbo vs. Flux 3 Klein (🤮)
  5. Follow-up · Oct 17, 2026Moss Image in 4 seconds on RTX5060
  6. Follow-up · Oct 17, 2026Why am I getting this result with Moss Base? I’ve tried a lot of different prompts, but I keep getting this old phone camera quality style regardless of what I ask for

Before this

  1. Oct 17, 2026Why not run Qwen 3.8 Flash Next with the full n-gram-table?
  2. Oct 17, 2026Qwen Flash Next quant and temp comparison - performance vs task time vs quality
  3. Oct 17, 2026deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-1017
  4. Oct 17, 2026Nemotron 3.5 Bolt, Muse Spark Open, and a Fast LFM2.5 24B
  5. Oct 15, 2026Prompt tips from Anthropic
  6. Oct 15, 2026Anthropic tells investors quarterly revenue up nearly 50% to $16.8bn ahead of IPO

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